Cosima's Diaries

Diary Entry of November 1, 1880

Overview

A good night is followed by practical fuss over lodging, but Frl. Schmidt’s kindness persuades us to remain where we are, and the King sends flowers. In the evening Beethoven’s Mass leaves a powerful but complex impression, prompting R. to distinguish between technical musicianship and the deeper point at which his real pleasure begins.

Content

Monday, November 1:

A good night, though arrangements have to be made once more; thoughts of moving to the hotel, but the friendly Frl. Schmidt proves the decisive factor in our staying where we are. R. is pleased that I make all the arrangements with good humor; the King sends some flowers.

At last, in the evening, Beethoven's Mass. Fine, if somewhat mixed, impression: "You will write a Mass," Beethoven must have said to himself, "and it will be something quite different." When I express my feeling that Italian church music has a different effect, R. agrees, and when the conductor takes the opposite view, R. says, "There speaks the musician, but my pleasure begins only at the point where I cease to be a musician."